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Ok; I have USA based checklists coming out my ears. I have information on how to bridge the international paperwork barrier. What I do not have, and would find useful, is a Germany specific list of what needs to be done before and after a death. (I'd expect that to be in German, and can handle the language barrier, just not well enough to tailor my search terms.) Does anyone have suggestions? (boost ok)

germany specific, preparing for family death 

💙 @pkra has showered me with links, and I'm feeling more grounded on this now. Any specific info or things that get left off the common pages, especially as we're foreigners, would still be very useful.

germany specific, preparing for family death 

@feonixrift I don't have any experience and I don't want to add useless info to your situation. But a quick search found a couple of links that seem reasonable. Is that the kind of thing you're looking for?

germany specific, preparing for family death 

@feonixrift Does the body need to travel state lines or would it remain in Germany? Your info would depend on what's the case.

germany specific, preparing for family death 

@Cedara Cremation and retain in Germany with potential travel of the ashes in a few years but not immediate.

germany specific, preparing for family death 

@feonixrift Look up Bestattungsgesetz - as a German term.

If the death happened in a hospital, they would certify the death, but you have to hire an undertaker (Bestattungsunternehmen).

You can ask the undertaker to take care of the paperwork with the Standesamt (registry office), where you would get the certificate of death from.

The undertaker would take care of the cremation and what you want to be done.
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@feonixrift 2/2

Also, only a Bestattungsunternehmen is allowed to transport a body, or the remains.

You are bound by law to take care of this, it's called Bestattungspflicht.

If you need anything more for names and such, please ask, I'm a German native.

germany specific, preparing for family death 

@Cedara Thank you very much! This is vital knowledge, and I was completely unaware of it.

germany specific, preparing for family death 

@feonixrift No worries. I had to deal with it when my Mom died. It's stuff you learn on the fly.

Also, I suggest calling a few Undertakers in that city, which one seems more approachable. I called two and one had a "Notfallnummer" where someone was maining the phone at the weekend.

germany specific, preparing for family death 

@feonixrift P.S. You can clear the details with the ashes remaining where and if they can travel and with whom in the contract you make with the Undertaker.

germany specific, preparing for family death 

@feonixrift @Cedara Is there a Sterbeversicherung ? also, wenn looking for a Bestattungsunternehmen. avoid the big ones. look out what they do as a cooperation. try to find, if you have the energy, for somebody who really works with you. If you know the cemetery, ask the people there (Friedhofsverwalter) for suggestions, the usually know with who they work well. Friedhofsamt is another keyword

germany specific, preparing for family death 

@eneh @Cedara We are supposed to have some amount of insurance coverage for death arrangements as part of his health insurance package. So at least there is that.

germany specific, preparing for family death 

@feonixrift
In Germany, you are expected to engage an undertaker. Even though if the passed away person shall be buried in another country. There are specialized undertakers. They know, what to do.

germany specific, preparing for family death 

@feonixrift
Most people die in a hospital. Every hospital has a 'Sozialdienst' to help people with problem around hospitalitation. They also know undertakers and can help, to manage that.
Otherwise, each municipality has a 'Sozialamt'. They are also prepared to deal with such things, because they have to organize burial, if there is no family or relatives found.

germany specific, preparing for family death 

@feonixrift @TheGibson be aware that the Bestattungsrecht is state-level law. This means that advice for one state isn’t applicable in other states necessarily. Especially rules governing the final resting place of the ash vary (Friedhofspflicht).

germany specific, preparing for family death 

@feonixrift @thegibson Here are some german words that come to mind:

Tod
sterben
ableben
Bestattung
Grabstätte
Erbe
sterbenskrank

germany specific, preparing for family death 

@feonixrift I would like to raise one more point: if the deceased died intestate and you are a close relative you automatically become the heir. This can be unfortunate when the legacy amounts to a net loss. you can then "ausschlagen" the legacy. from the german legal point of view concerning the legacy you are then dead too and the legacy is passed on - * but you have only 6 weeks to do so!* if you need more information about this scenario - toot!

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