In seriousness, I think this is actually an underappreciated element of anti-fascism.
A core element of fascist ideology is the idea that there was once a perfect, ideal past, that we through our degeneracy let slip away. The fascist promises to bring us back to it by being a stern ruler who will punish us for our sins.
So it's important to help people understand that there was NEVER a perfect, ideal past. There was just people and their various screw-ups. And people now are fundamentally the same as people then. The clothes change, the rituals change, but people are people.
I think your toot explains why fundamentalism and fascism are so friendly. They both have this delusion at their heart and both lie about the past. Except that fundamentalism has a bigger incentive to believe the lie since they use it to explain why God created such an imperfect world.
@SnerkRabbledauber There is definitely a lot of overlap. Fundamentalists tend to believe in a stern god who punishes people when they don't follow his rules, so the idea of a human ruler made in that image feels right.
The smart fascists foster this connection explicitly. Franco, for instance, did quite well by positioning himself as a sort of Defender of the Faith.
@esty @SnerkRabbledauber Not even just Orthodox. There are an awful lot of Evangelical American Protestants who think Putin is some kind of Christian warrior, because he happens to oppress the same people they would like to oppress. https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/russia-ukraine-crisis-complicates-american-white-evangelicals-love-putin-n1290442
@jalefkowit @esty @SnerkRabbledauber finally being forced to see that overlap for what it was, stripped of any sense of immunity for the one that should have been the true church, was one of the things that made me quite comfortable in identifying as an atheist now after 7 years of devout Orthodox practice
I respect that. Walking away from a community is very hard, and for many so hard that their principles take a back seat to it.
I think there's big 'A' Atheism and little 'a' atheism these days though, where many of the 'big A' atheist 'gurus' are super transphobic and/or racist (e.g. Dawkins, Pinker, etc). So these days I'm reluctant to apply that term to myself.
It's fun to see how people in the early Christian church would tie themselves in knots dealing with the paradox of supremely moral and respected philosophers like Socrates and Aristotle were pagans! It usually came up with questions like "If only faith in Jesus saves us, is Socrates in Hell?"
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